Q&A: Heroes Describe Walmart Stabbing Rescue in 'Slow Motion'

A Heroic Intervention at a Walmart in Traverse City

A former U.S. Marine and his brother-in-law have been recognized as heroes after they stepped in during a mass stabbing incident at a Walmart in Traverse City. The event, which left 11 shoppers injured, was swiftly addressed by a group of bystanders who took it upon themselves to subdue the suspect.

Matt Kolakowski, a military veteran, and Chris O’Brien, both from the Grand Rapids area, were among those who acted quickly when the attack occurred. Their actions came just moments after the suspect, Bradford James Gille, 42, allegedly stabbed multiple people inside the store. Authorities have not yet released a motive for the attack, but the quick response of the witnesses played a critical role in preventing further harm.

Bystanders captured video of the incident on social media, showing a group of individuals working together to contain the suspect. They used shopping carts and their own bodies to push him toward a specific area of the parking lot. As they shouted commands for him to drop the knife and get on the ground, the suspect was eventually subdued before law enforcement arrived.

During a press conference held in Grand Rapids, Kolakowski and O’Brien shared their account of what transpired. Here are some key details from their conversation:

What Happened That Day

Kolakowski explained that he and O’Brien had arrived in Traverse City earlier that day to prepare for a pontoon boat rental. They stopped at Walmart to pick up supplies, including fishing poles, beverages, and snacks. While shopping, they heard an employee shouting about a person with a knife. As the situation unfolded, Kolakowski saw the suspect and immediately took action.

O’Brien noted that the suspect appeared to be running in an unusual manner. Kolakowski ran after the attacker, grabbing an empty grocery cart. He described seeing the suspect stab an elderly woman in the back, then turning to face him. Kolakowski rammed the suspect with the cart, causing him to fall. Another individual with a cart joined in, and together they pushed the suspect toward a cement area near a light pole.

The Role of Video Evidence

O’Brien mentioned that he pulled out his phone to record the incident. He believed that video evidence would be important if the situation escalated. Although he usually prefers to be involved in action, he felt it was necessary to document what was happening at that moment.

The Suspect’s Behavior

Kolakowski described the suspect's eyes as bulging and panicking, which led him to believe the individual might be under the influence of drugs. O’Brien agreed, adding that he would have assumed the suspect was on "bad ones."

When asked if the suspect said anything, Kolakowski recalled that the attacker claimed everyone inside the store was bad and deserved to die. Later, while on the ground, the suspect identified himself as a soldier, prompting Kolakowski to reveal his own military background.

Military Training and Instincts

O’Brien reflected on how military training can come into play in unexpected situations. He emphasized that while such scenarios are not typical in civilian life, the skills learned in the military can be crucial when needed.

Are They Heroes?

When asked if they considered themselves heroes, O’Brien credited Kolakowski for taking the lead. He acknowledged that while he followed to help, Kolakowski didn’t necessarily need his assistance. However, Kolakowski admitted that he did appreciate O’Brien’s support.

Aftermath and Reflections

Both men expressed gratitude that no one died during the incident. Kolakowski admitted to still feeling tense and having trouble sleeping. O’Brien shared similar sentiments, noting that he has been unable to sleep due to the trauma of the event.

Kolakowski also spoke about what he hopes his children will learn from this experience. He urged them to stay alert and aware of their surroundings, emphasizing the importance of being vigilant in a world where many people are distracted by their phones.

Plans to Return to Traverse City

Despite the traumatic experience, Kolakowski and O’Brien plan to return to Traverse City next month. They hope to spend more time there and possibly bring family along.

Hope for the Victims

Finally, Kolakowski expressed his hope that the victims and their families receive the support and justice they deserve. He believes that everyone affected by the incident, including witnesses, should be able to find closure and healing.